Puffy - "All Because of You" - Written by Avril Lavigne

[Lewymocha-Original]

Originally Posted by Sterock85

The whole who wrote what is growing boring now.

Why do we assume he wrote the whole song though. Maybe it could be like MHE, He wrote the verses she wrote the chorus.

"We" don't assume. Tiffany assumes.

We all know Avril has a lot more paticipation in the lyrics and song writing than writing one chorus.

Take for example Nobodys Home. She wrote ALL the lyrics and Co-wrote the music. She is capable of writing a lot more than people speculate. It's not fair to call to question her writing capability. I could call to question Butch's. How do we know he doesn't go into the studio and just master the song, has his name down for writing the song and take's too much credit?

We DON'T know, what we do know however is, that Butch and Avril both have their words, and each should be treated fairly. Avril is just as musical as Butch, as we can see from her world tour, playing drums, piano and guitar.

This calling Avril's writing into question is not an issue on this forum at all. It is just Tiffany over-crediting Butch, makes up absolute bull and nonsense to try prove her point and people get mad.

Anyways....yeah.......

[gustavoi]

Originally Posted by Running With Scissors

Tiffany, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!

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Great job super ultra mega hyper moderator.

I think this New should be edited, Tiffany was posting a fact in her fist post, the song it's co-written by Avril and Butch, not Written by Avril and co-Written by butch, that just doesn't make sense, and the title of the new it's wrong too.

Originally Posted by Lewymocha-Original

Avril wrote it. Butch co-wrote, as in he helped her fix certain parts of the lyrics that may be more suited for the song.

Sooooo True... NOT.

and Tiffany you ask him if he wrote it. he did, but Avril too.

[gustavoi]

Originally Posted by Lewymocha-Original

"We" don't assume. Tiffany assumes.

We all know Avril has a lot more paticipation in the lyrics and song writing than writing one chorus.

Take for example Nobodys Home. She wrote ALL the lyrics and Co-wrote the music. She is capable of writing a lot more than people speculate. It's not fair to call to question her writing capability. I could call to question Butch's. How do we know he doesn't go into the studio and just master the song, has his name down for writing the song and take's too much credit?

We DON'T know, what we do know however is, that Butch and Avril both have their words, and each should be treated fairly. Avril is just as musical as Butch, as we can see from her world tour, playing drums, piano and guitar.

This calling Avril's writing into question is not an issue on this forum at all. It is just Tiffany over-crediting Butch, makes up absolute bull and nonsense to try prove her point and people get mad.

Anyways....yeah.......

Exactly, but you are doing the opposite, which isn't right neither.

The song written by Avril, and co-written by Butch Walker

That doesn't make sense, and it's not equal, and you know it, and you did it on purpose. because you wanted to piss Tiffany, and you did, Bravo.

[Lewymocha-Original]

HAHAHAHAH! I wrote the update motivated on pissing Tiffany Lee?! Yeah, cause she's always on my mind while writing updates.

The reason I wrote it was because this is an AVRIL site. Some of you forget that sometimes.

And HOW do YOU know that Avril didn't write the majority of the song? You DON'T so don't say it's NOT true, because YOU don't know!

[Running With Scissors]

When you're as out of hand as Tiffany, Gustavoi, you don't even deserve such courtesy as what you've quoted.

Tiffany constantly alludes to her hatred of Avril. As a moderator on an Avril Lavigne fan forum, it's my duty to keep people such as Tiffany at bay, hopefully stopping her from stressing out the actual Avril Lavigne fans here.

As for why Tiffany feels the need to return here time after time just to insult Avril's talents, I have no idea. But the fact that she gets sustenance out of that is truly, truly pathetic.

[Lewymocha-Original]

The stressing out other ACTUAL fans is a key point in Brian's post. Fans on here do feel quote some "Bullied" by Tiffany Lee. I am of course not going to name names. The number of complaints against her is actually quite ridicolous, and to make it worse she insults Avril, and isn't even a fan. In all fairness she has been given sooo much chances. She has run out of them. It's over. She either changes her priorities on why she is visting this site, or she leaves. They are her options.

This is off-topic however, Just clearing it up. So if any of you have any questions or queries on what me or Brian have said concerning the issue PM me (Brian is kind of busy at the moment) or an Admin if you would like to take it up even further.

Now this is a topic on "All Because of You" and not Tiffany Lee. SO let's get back on topic.

[Lewymocha-Original]

Originally Posted by Running With Scissors

Brian: "Lewis, did you write "All Because of You"??

Lewis: "yes i did dear!"

Because he said it, it must be true.

That's so not the kind of convo we would have hahahah!

[Sterock85]

Im confused, has Amy deleted her post..or did i imagine she posted something!!