One of Avrils co-writers say songs with meaning are the future of succesful music

[LΞW!S]

I agree again

[Robertloveslavigne]

sorry but sometimes it is so obvious

Avril desperately needed radio single material, Deryck said she was looking for writers because she still had no single. It was totally clear to what producers she would be going, copying the sound that was popular at the moment.

They had only two weeks time to get some songs together that would be successful on the charts or would satisfy her label.
Look at the past 5 years and what songs usually made it on top of the charts. No way they are risking anything with Avril now, you can bet it will be a generic pop song.
She needed to record a song that they think will for sure make it on top.

About what meaningful things could she possibly be singing??
It is going to be something personal for Avril, she said that, something inspired by her relationships and friends and it's nothing serious, so it is most likely going to be something like a love song or a party song about having fun.
Avril doesn't have any other topics she could sing about or would want to sing about now that she is so super happily together with Brody fucking Jenner.

Would you call any of that a meaningful song that is going to revolutionize pop music?


I don't know what songs this woman writes in her free time, but so far she has not achieved anything, she claims to have written the hook for a song but didn't even got the credits. Laughable.
Her producer she has a contract with is only working with pop artists like Nicki Minaj, Rihanna and Avril Lavigne, who are not known for singing meaningful songs and absolutely nothing was revolutionary or groundbreaking about the songs he produced so far. Anyone could have produced that shit. He is far away from being an established hit-producer and his songwriter woman is a complete nobody.

All this bullshit talk is nothing but pathetic. They work on music for money and nothing else, they have no other ambitions, just like Avril.

Who cares about a meaningful song when nobody is going to listen to it?

I agree Avril went to these people because she needed to satisfy the label but that doesn't mean it will be meaningless and I would say a love song even if is about brody is meaningful. Alex Da Kids also worked with Hayley Williams and if Avril wants a meaningful song then he'll help her as she only uses other songwriters to develop her ideas. I think she did write it To view the link you have to Register

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Lewis, be consequent with your infractions or fucking leave it, what you are doing is arbitrariness.

If you think I was directly insulting anyone here with my statement or even think that statement was all wrong, I cannot help you, it was aimed at those people that are simply unable to add one and one together but need to bash those who can.


Now shove that ridiculous infraction up your ass, it's as ridiculous as the infraction I got for calling someones argument idiotic, no way I am going to take that seriously.

C) They will admit that they are being hypocritical supporting Avril's past work and then commenting on deep meaningful songs like Love the Way You Lie.

do yourself a favor please and look up the writing credits for that song and keep in mind that this thread is about Skylar Grey

btw deep meaningful songs..

"if she ever tries to fuckin leave again, I'ma tie her to the bed and set this house on fire"

wow very meaningful

[~ Avril <3]

Hope it'll be true...

[★R★]

btw deep meaningful songs..

"if she ever tries to fuckin leave again, I'ma tie her to the bed and set this house on fire"

wow very meaningful

LMAO, WHY YOU SO MAD?!

LTWYL is actually a pretty powerful song. The lyrics completely capture an abusive relationship accurately. If you don't hear the power in Eminem's voice when he raps that explicit line, you're crazy.

How meaningful are you expecting Avril to go this record..? None of her past material has been very deep. It scratches the surface of some complex issues, but her material is always watered down with a nice pop friendly chorus. She's a pop singer, and she's very good at what she does. I'm not expecting anything too different or groundbreaking from Avril this era (lyric wise). I think she'll have a stripped song about being lonely or something , but for the most part, I think she'll be keeping the songs relatively signature.

[Robertloveslavigne]

"if she ever tries to fuckin leave again, I'ma tie her to the bed and set this house on fire"

wow very meaningful

Actually it is. It shows how crazed some of these abusers and whats goes through there head.

[PBR Street Gang]

The music isn't meant to help them. The music is meant to raise money and inspire people to help them. You can't expect Jack to go up to some poor abused women and say "excuse me but coul you tell me you thoughts on love the way you lie to prove a point to some close minded person that i've never met" Its obviously a very meaningful song as theirs a story behind it and the lyrics tell a powerful story of something that happens every day across the world. If this is the type of song you calll meaningless then fuck knows whats meaningful to you

Just because it's made by a major record label, it's meaningless?

I know it was made to make money, I know the label paid Skylar to write such lyrics for Eminem. I know this was invented to be on radio. What has that got to do with the meaning of the song? Skylar wrote meaningful lyrics to a song that was meant to be a hit.

Just because this is a major pop song, paid for by a major record label and marketed by a major artist does not take away from the meaning! Are you saying only indie small artists with labels who have little money are the only people who can release meaningful songs?

Who cares if a #1 pop song can have meaninful lyrics? What does it take away from anyone? Nothing.

You're being closed minded and judging an artist by their label, hype and financial value. It has nothing to do with the song.

Major artists, with big song-writers, who have big labels can have meaningful songs. 'Im With You' is proof of that.

Anymore stupid questions and comments?

i like M&M i think half the time he is a meaningful artist but there is no requirement for every song to be deep lyrical for me to enjoy it but i do get pissed offwith a constant flow of empty headed artist in the mainstream .

and i have read enough articles from groups and organisations that deal with domestic abuse every day talking about this song and video to understand there are 2 points of view , and most of the victims of abuse don't seem to agree with you , jack or lewis about how important this song was and its positive affects .


but do you understand what shy said in her statement ?
sky is the one saying that there aren't many songs in the top 40 with any meaning and the top 40 is controlled by big record labels , there isn't any DIY in the top 40
"We're revolutionizing top 40 radio folks....songs with MEANING are the future of successful music"
and she is saying tat she and her artist and producer friends are going to change that around , thats what she means , except its bullshit because her artist and producer friends are the people responsible for meaningless shit at the top of the charts .

i am not saying anything but pointing out her bullshit and pointing out she gets paid for meaningless shit .

and why are people here so defensive about anyone criticising sky ?

why ? because she worked with avril once ? there is no evidence at all that she is even referring to avril , she is more likely talking about rihana as her single and album is coming out , and please tell me for a joke you think rihanna can be called a meaningful artist with meaningful songs ?

you are all getting pissy and defensive and complaining that its "bashing avril " when no one is even talking about her , people are talking about sky and her bad voice and her hypocrisy , its so fucking weird

[LΞW!S]

She wrote ONE song for top 40 radio. That is my point. It's a meaningful song and the fact you mention that people will disagree or agree with it's meaning in a debate type fashion proves the point it's meaningful.

In regards to her type of people controlling the charts. If you did your research you would see that Alex and Skylar are brand new writers for 2010, and have only two/three top ten hits and have no where near any control over the top 40 radio.

Really your comments hold little to no fact, I don't get why I'm even discussing your inaccurate arguments

[PBR Street Gang]

A song about domestic violence meaningless? Say that to those millions of women that have been battered through months or years. What's next, saying that a song about African hungry children is meaningless too? My goodness...

How far are you going to go just to trash and discredit everything Avril does or anyone who is related to her (and he/she is not among your "chosen ones")? Seriously, I can't take you seriously anymore after seeing that kind of stupid statements.

The music isn't meant to help them. The music is meant to raise money and inspire people to help them.

And you know damn well that he was talking about Live Aid song about starving children? Do you think that's meaningless? A song that has spawned millions and millions of dollars into poor starving African children?

I've never though for one second that you were a silly, small-minded or dare I say it stupid person. But I have my doubts tonight. Your opinions are usually well thought out. These posts are just ridicolous and you know they don't make sense. You're arguing for the sake of arguing. It's ok to be wrong sometimes. This is one of these cases.

If you wanna come back in here, bring your facts, and don't try me again

lets talk about facts then , lets talk about the starving kids in ethiopia and LIVE aid and LIVE 8

how much money did live aid raise ?
how much of that $200 million actually made it to helping real people ?
how many ten of thousands of human beings ended up losing their lives because of the way in which that aid was distributed ?
how much damage did a bunch of idiot celebrities and their even more idiot fans and media end up doing in Ethiopia ?
was it more or less or about the same as than the famine ?

do you want to take a guess at how many human beings died as a result of live aid and a song about African hungry children ?

want to try and take a guess ? 10 000 ? 20 000 ? 30 000? 40 000 ? 50 000 ? 60 000 ? 70 000? 80 000? 90 000 ? 100 000 ? 150 000 ? 200 000?

My goodness..

what about LIVE 8 then ?

$65 billion for africa claimed by BOB and his PR and production company ? yes
how much has actually came through ? take a guess again

how much attention was taken away from the real issues and real problems of africa and the developing world by bob and all his celebrity fame hungry friends ?
do you even remember what the technical problems were that Africa faces ? and do you remember the real practical solutions that real experts expressed ? or do you just remember a nice meaningful pops song and you can feel good about it
how much damage did they end up doing ?

"the road to hell is paved with good intention"

and of course anybody who suggested that something might not be right about anything to do with charity or a good cause , or offers any type of critical opinion must be a hater and a bad person right ? typical

keep feeling superior and keep living with your heads in the sand don't ever try and question anything you are being sold and don't try and educate yourselves ever you will be happier that way .

and while we are on the subject has anybody educated themselves and done some research into why the type of charity auction that the nancy davis foundation ,which avril is a director of , can be a massive tax scam for rich people and companies yet ? no didn't thinks but you will support it all anyway , mindlessly like a good little drone

[LΞW!S]

Erm pointless. All completely irrelevant Stay on topic.

We're talking about the meaning of songs, not how charitiable finance is distributed towards Africa. Songs about helping Africa are full of meaning regardless of how the finance is distributed and what problems it caused.

Hate when people go off point and think they have a relevant argument with it

[Godzila]

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looks like Lewis!

[LΞW!S]

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