How can you explain the general public’s double standard regarding Avril?

[avrilxxx15]

There's no one reason.

And people are still going to come across news related to Avril Lavigne, whether they want to or not. You may be able to avoid such information, but I frequently stumble across artists that I have no interest in. And people will judge her based off anything, be it a single, a photo from an event, or an article.

I wouldn't say she's hated more than other female singers, but there's certainly a lot of conflict over her because of her image transition over the years and how it's left so many people butt hurt. If anything, her ex-fans do the most damage.

What if her ex fan go back?

[★Jululps★]

What if her ex fan go back?

Fat chance of that. In any case it's not like all of them will suddenly just convert back to being Black Stars.

I personally don't want them back. Pop music to me is about being open-minded, not pretentious.

[Jacklavigne]

Fat chance of that. In any case it's not like all of them will suddenly just convert back to being Black Stars.

I personally don't want them back. Pop music to me is about being open-minded, not pretentious.

I agree, I don't want pretentious music snobs back

[BogoGog24]

If people disliked Avril just for her music, we wouldn't hear comments like, "She's so immature!" "She thinks she's so punk but she's not!" "She's a sellout for having a clothing line and perfumes!"

[Zach]

If people disliked Avril just for her music, we wouldn't hear comments like, "She's so immature!" "She thinks she's so punk but she's not!" "She's a sellout for having a clothing line and perfumes!"

There will always be "those people"...they've been around since 2002 regarding Avril. They exist for every artist.

[BogoGog24]

^ Yeah I know, I was responding to HBK's post about how he thinks people only dislike Avril based on what they hear from her on the radio. But if that were true, like I said, we wouldn't hear the comments that regard things outside of her music.

[avrilxxx15]

@jululps, @jacklavigne, It's funny, i typed Avril in the search on twitter, and their name appeared, saying that those who need musical director are lame musicians, WTF?? Even the likes of Metallica have and hire musical directors

[HBK-79]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Avril's in an awkward pop-rock-limbo; she's too mainstream for the rock crowd and she's too edgy for the pop crowd. P!nk and Ke$ha are much more mainstream and are simply latching onto a gimmick to sell their music. Avril's constant association with the rock world (her comparisons to Amy Lee and Hayley Williams, for example) is gonna result in more music snobbery towards her, unlike Ke$ha and P!nk who stay very firmly in pop territory.

I'm sorry. But after rereading this post, I feel the need to bring something up.

I've been amongst P!nk fans, and they'll spit in your face if you mention P!nk in the same sentence as Avril or Ke$ha. P!nk fans see P!nk as 100% genuine, not needing a gimmick or a marketing ploy to sell her music. They say that P!nk "has the songwriting skills of Taylor, and the vocal prowess of Kelly and Adele". They will also say that P!nk comes up with more meaningful songs and more brilliant lyrics than most female artists do.

This is P!nk's claim to fame-

Stupid Girls and Raise Your Glass are probably the most important songs of the past decade in terms of the message. It made many girls think about issues of popularity, authenticity, etc.

The fact is that, Pink is pretty much the only popular female artist today that at least gives an attempt at writing social commentaries. Pink took on a hard task to make some songs with serious message Top 40 hits. Avril fans should give her the props for attempting it.

As it relates to Avril, P!nk fans would argue that Avril is a "sellout" and a "hypocrite". Thus, P!nk fans feel vindicated in thinking that “P!nk is the only one left that rebels against the pop tart world”.

How would you guys respond to that?


On a personal note, back in 2001, P!nk went on and on about how she's so much different from Britney. Yet, she hooked up with Max Martin and Dr. Luke. P!nk NEVER got labeled a "sellout" for doing that. In contrast, Avril did in a major way.

[BogoGog24]

^ Pink on the same vocal level as Kelly and Adele? You've got to be kidding!

[RebelGirl]

P!nk on the same songwriting level as Taylor? Does P!nk even write her own songs?

[Jacklavigne]

I'm sorry. But after rereading this post, I feel the need to bring something up.

I've been amongst P!nk fans, and they'll spit in your face if you mention P!nk in the same sentence as Avril or Ke$ha. P!nk fans see P!nk as 100% genuine, not needing a gimmick or a marketing ploy to sell her music. They say that P!nk "has the songwriting skills of Taylor, and the vocal prowess of Kelly and Adele". They will also say that P!nk comes up with more meaningful songs and more brilliant lyrics than most female artists do.

This is P!nk's claim to fame-



As it relates to Avril, P!nk fans would argue that Avril is a "sellout" and a "hypocrite". Thus, P!nk fans feel vindicated in thinking that “P!nk is the only one left that rebels against the pop tart world”.

How would you guys respond to that?


On a personal note, back in 2001, P!nk went on and on about how she's so much different from Britney. Yet, she hooked up with Max Martin and Dr. Luke. P!nk NEVER got labeled a "sellout" for doing that. In contrast, Avril did in a major way.

How stupidly pretentious some people can be

[★Jululps★]

How stupidly pretentious some people can be

Pop-rock fans in a nutshell.