Britney Spears to Judge on X Factor USA

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^You forgot flops Clay Aiken, Ruben Studdard, Lee DeWyze, and Adam Lambert.

[★Jululps★]

^You forgot flops Clay Aiken, Ruben Studdard, Lee DeWyze, and Adam Lambert.

Exactly. Though props to Adam for actually striving to be something more - he'd have been a huge star if he had the X-Factor to back him up. American Idol was not ready for him, or Blake Lewis at that matter, because it's a stale, predictable show that churns out similar singers.

In contrast, the X Factor:

Shayne Ward
Leona Lewis
Olly Murs
Cher Lloyd
One Direction
Joe McElderry
Alexandra Burke
JLS

All successful. And I haven't even listed them all.

[BogoGog24]

David Cook had two flops and was dropped, Scotty never made any impact, Jennifer Hudson is now under the radar, and Daughtry is no longer a factor anywhere.

The reason you've only heard of Leona Lewis is because you apparently don't listen to anything out of the Billboard charts. The majority of the contestants from the X Factor are WILDLY popular in Europe, whereas those Idol contestants couldn't even make an impact in their own country. Where's Taylor Hicks? Archuleta? Blake Lewis? Katherine? Exactly. The show's been running for well over a decade and has produced only two notable stars.

As for the Britney comment, maybe you need to wait and actually see how she handles the role of a judge before writing her off. She has a keen eye for talent.

As for Avril, it would have been a great way to get people interested in her again. If she came off the right way, she may even have won over most of America, but I guess that's not about to happen.



Let's not dig out those stale-ass receipts.

Ahem Scotty is the youngest man ever in Billboard history to debut at #1 with a debut album, as well as the first country act to debut at #1 with a debut album. No impact my ass. Obviously the artists you mentioned from AI have basically fallen off the face of the earth by now, but AI has been around for 11 years now and produced quite a few household names. The X Factor UK artists may be relevant in Europe, but no one in America gives a shit about them, hence why I've never heard of any of them.

Plus, I DO listen to music outside of the Billboard charts. How can you make some stupid statement saying what I listen to when you have no idea what I listen to? You're only sticking up for Britney because you're a big fan, and I'm a fan too, but you can't deny that she had little talent in the first place, and now she is essentially a corporate robot. I heard she wanted to do something different from what Femme Fatale ended up being, but since she has no backbone she did what RCA wanted and we ended up with 12 songs of auto tuned electropop roboticness. The only reason why anyone still cares about Britney is because of what she's done in the past. If Femme Fatale was her first album, she'd be considered a joke. Face it man- she can't sing or dance anymore. She is just there to make money for the big companies like RCA and Fox. She is not even in a correct mental or emotional state right now and the poor girl is being taken advantage of because of her popularity. How can you say she is good at spotting talent? What talent has she ever discovered? As far as I know, she's never been the judge of anything before.

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Exactly. Though props to Adam for actually striving to be something more - he'd have been a huge star if he had the X-Factor to back him up. American Idol was not ready for him, or Blake Lewis at that matter, because it's a stale, predictable show that churns out similar singers.

In contrast, the X Factor:

Shayne Ward
Leona Lewis
Olly Murs
Cher Lloyd
One Direction
Joe McElderry
Alexandra Burke
JLS

All successful. And I haven't even listed them all.

These are the only ones I've ever heard of. And in my opinion, they all suck.

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Ahem Scotty is the youngest man ever in Billboard history to debut at #1 with a debut album, as well as the first country act to debut at #1 with a debut album. No impact my ass. Obviously the artists you mentioned from AI have basically fallen off the face of the earth by now, but AI has been around for 11 years now and produced quite a few household names. The X Factor UK artists may be relevant in Europe, but no one in America gives a shit about them, hence why I've never heard of any of them.

But where are his singles at? Of course he'll find success on the country charts with American Idol to give him that push, but he's a non-factor everywhere else.

Idol has made just a handful of popular artists, and the vast majority of them either flopped after a while or accomplished nothing from the start. And while no one in America "gives a shit" about the X Factor winners (in your opinion, at least) other countries do, which was my point. They've found success, and maintained it.

Plus, I DO listen to music outside of the Billboard charts. How can you make some stupid statement saying what I listen to when you have no idea what I listen to? You're only sticking up for Britney because you're a big fan, and I'm a fan too, but you can't deny that she had little talent in the first place, and now she is essentially a corporate robot. I heard she wanted to do something different from what Femme Fatale ended up being, but since she has no backbone she did what RCA wanted and we ended up with 12 songs of auto tuned electropop roboticness. The only reason why anyone still cares about Britney is because of what she's done in the past. If Femme Fatale was her first album, she'd be considered a joke. Face it man- she can't sing or dance anymore. She is just there to make money for the big companies like RCA and Fox. She is not even in a correct mental or emotional state right now and the poor girl is being taken advantage of because of her popularity. How can you say she is good at spotting talent? What talent has she ever discovered? As far as I know, she's never been the judge of anything before.

That wasn't very well shown with your last post. Or your current one, for that matter. In any case, that wasn't a dig at you.

But waiT, so I can't make those assumptions about you but you can write up a whole essay about Britney? That's news to me. Britney has never had a stellar voice but that clearly doesn't get in the way of becoming a great performer. Her shows still sell-out, her tours are huge. She's doing a LOT considering she has a bum knee. Paula doesn't sing or dance any more - did that make her unfit as a judge?

I know she's good at spotting talent because I know what she's in charge of. She's the one who selects the performers for her videos. She was the executive producer on her last album. Yes, she wanted to go with a different theme, but after she embraced her label's idea she went forward with the sound of that record, which has a 67% rating on Metacritic. She's not stupid, she knows what she's getting into with this career move. If she didn't think it would benefit her image, it would not have gone through, no matter how much money was put on the table.

These are the only ones I've ever heard of. And in my opinion, they all suck.

Irrelevant but ok.

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My original point wasn't that Britney isn't fit to judge based on her talent (or lack thereof), but that she doesn't come off as the type of person who is capable of giving tough criticism. She'd be too worried about hurting people's feelings. Like I said, people still buy Britney's albums and concert tickets because of her overall popularity and longevity in the industry. If she were a new artist, no one would take her seriously. And single sales aren't everything- isn't that what we've been saying about Avril this past era? I guess by that logic, Avril is a flop because her singles didn't go #1 worldwide.

Like I said, the fact they even considered Britney to be a judge I'm sure has much much more to do with boosting ratings than the fact they think she can be a good judge. Same with Demi- what could Demi possibly know about finding talent when she is like, what, 19? They're there for ratings and because they think they have credibility because of their "personal issues." The same probably goes for Avril if they even considered her- Avril was a pretty bad judge on AI, so they probably only chose her to boost ratings. Ratings are all anybody cares about nowadays. If they really cared about the quality of the judges, we wouldn't have Jennifer Lopez or Nicole Shrezinger or Paula Abdul as "judges."

[Miles890]

If FF was her first album, i wouldn't be her fan. I hate that album, and i hate how much Jive fucked up that album whic was supposed to be more acustic with Britney writing all the tracks ç____ç.
But like i said, she STILL CAN sing and dance, but it's like if she was afraid..thats why she doesn't do promotion like she used to.


Nobody knows that she will do a great job or not, let's wait the first audition to judge, but before that stop speculating

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My original point wasn't that Britney isn't fit to judge based on her talent (or lack thereof), but that she doesn't come off as the type of person who is capable of giving tough criticism. She'd be too worried about hurting people's feelings. Like I said, people still buy Britney's albums and concert tickets because of her overall popularity and longevity in the industry. If she were a new artist, no one would take her seriously. And single sales aren't everything- isn't that what we've been saying about Avril this past era? I guess by that logic, Avril is a flop because her singles didn't go #1 worldwide.

It's undoubtedly for ratings. None of these shows can function without that, especially given the sheer number of duplicates that keep popping up every other year.

And like I said, we don't know how she'll judge. Not everyone needs to be the bad guy - we've got Simon for that. It's about a variety of personalities and thus a range of different responses.

And yes, Avril currently is a flop. -wipes tear-

Like I said, the fact they even considered Britney to be a judge I'm sure has much much more to do with boosting ratings than the fact they think she can be a good judge. Same with Demi- what could Demi possibly know about finding talent when she is like, what, 19? They're there for ratings and because they think they have credibility because of their "personal issues." The same probably goes for Avril if they even considered her- Avril was a pretty bad judge on AI, so they probably only chose her to boost ratings. Ratings are all anybody cares about nowadays. If they really cared about the quality of the judges, we wouldn't have Jennifer Lopez or Nicole Shrezinger or Paula Abdul as "judges."

Here's a news flash for you bb: without ratings, these shows would end, and with that so would the opportunities being presented to undiscovered talent every year. This isn't a charity. They could find these so-called superior judges, but no one's going to tune in to watch that, because chances are they aren't celebrities. There are people behind the scenes to help the contestants with their performances, but the judges are for overall critiques and to generate audience interest.

The X-Factor has worked, whether you think their judges are "quality" or not. I've no thoughts on Idol or it's failed attempts to find superstars in that regard.

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i didn't watch the last series but i'll probably watch this one. britney's gonna be interesting, i really can't wait too see her. demi is actually one of the most talented young girls in the industry, i'm not the biggest fan of some of her music, but she's got a killer voice and she's such a good role model. she deserves it.

^You forgot flops Clay Aiken, Ruben Studdard, Lee DeWyze, and Adam Lambert.

adams currently singing with queen, in place of freddie mercury. hardly a flop..

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adams currently singing with queen, in place of freddie mercury. hardly a flop..

And promoting his second album, which is doing very well critically and on the iTunes chart at the moment. /promo

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Well no duh they need celebrities to judge the show or else nobody will bother watching, but they need people that actually know what they're talking about..... BB. Britney can only give advice on the entertainment/performance side of it because she can't sing a freakin' note anymore.

At least on The Voice you have people like Adam Levine and Christina who actually sing LIVE (though I can't stand the way Xtina sings but she's still miles better than Britney).

Remember when AI hired Ellen DeGeneres as a judge, even though she knew nothing about music? She was only there for comic relief and to represent the "general public's opinion." She lasted for 1 season. You need a balance somewhere- someone who actually knows what they're talking about, but also makes the show interesting to watch. I'm sure Britney knows some things given she's been in the industry for so long, but at the same time you've got people behind her doing all this stuff for her. She looks like a robot when she performs on stage. I don't believe she comes up with any choreography for her tours on her own, on the last album didn't write any of the songs (except Scary which didn't make the cut), barely sings and when she does it sounds terrible, barely dances anymore, etc. She relies on background dancers who dance better than she does, weird costumes, props, and sexy dancing to distract from how poor her performing ability has become. Who wants advice from someone like that? If she gave me advice about singing or something, I'd just smile and nod but probably wouldn't take her criticisms very seriously.

On the other hand, if I were given advice by Adam or Steven Tyler, their criticisms would be more legit because they are actual musicians- they are actually involved in what they do to a much greeter extent than Britney. If I want to be a manufactured robotic pop tart like Briney, sure I'll listen to her. But if I want to be a real musician, I'm not gonna take her seriously. Get the difference?

@Miles Totally agree. Femme Fatale is easily one of her worst albums yet! I barely ever listen to it. It's basically an upbeat Blackout and I wasn't much of a fan of that album either.

[Miles890]

I didin't even buy it xD At least Blackout was something fresh, having some gems like Hevean On Earth <3<3 and IMO the best electro-pop album of these 5 years but...
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Anyway,i'd really like to say a thing:
To me Britney is perfect to judge X Factor, because the ''x factor'' is not having the most powerful voice, but being able to enchant the public. Britney did that for a decade, on the other hand i wouldn't see someone like Christina Aguilera there, simply because she has only the voice, but she didin't memorable performances like Britney did---> no x factor, like Melanie Amaro. Melanie had to go to The Voice, X Factor wasn't for her IMO..There were much better competitors who really had that factor: Chris Renè for example, but even Marcus Canty and Drew. Those 3 are the perfect example to explain what that show means.
Of course you must know how to sing, but nowdays it's not that important. You can sing very well, but if you don't have any personality you can't succeed.