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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles890 To view the link you have to Register
    I didin't even buy it xD At least Blackout was something fresh, having some gems like Hevean On Earth <3<3 and IMO the best electro-pop album of these 5 years but...
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    Anyway,i'd really like to say a thing:
    To me Britney is perfect to judge X Factor, because the ''x factor'' is not having the most powerful voice, but being able to enchant the public. Britney did that for a decade, on the other hand i wouldn't see someone like Christina Aguilera there, simply because she has only the voice, but she didin't memorable performances like Britney did---> no x factor, like Melanie Amaro. Melanie had to go to The Voice, X Factor wasn't for her IMO..There were much better competitors who really had that factor: Chris Renč for example, but even Marcus Canty and Drew. Those 3 are the perfect example to explain what that show means.
    Of course you must know how to sing, but nowdays it's not that important. You can sing very well, but if you don't have any personality you can't succeed.

    Yes! I so wish Blackout had included some of those acoustic songs she wrote like Let Go, Just Yesterday, Every Day, etc. Someday I Will Understand is another beautiful song she wrote. That's what I'm saying- Britney is obviously capable of writing deep, meaningful songs that don't require auto tune, yet for whatever reason she holds herself back and chooses not to release those types of songs. I hope one day she will release an album of Dear Diarys, Shadows, Everytimes, My Babys, Let Gos, Just Yesterdays, Every Days, Somedays, etc. I think she is really capable of it and it would show people a different side of her. For whatever reason, the public is only interested in her electropop sexy robot music.

    Yeah I understand your point about X Factor- Britney certainly does have the X Factor, but she doesn't have much of a voice. You need BOTH. Most people will agree she is entertaining, but she's not a very good singer. In my opinion, you need to be able to sing, as well as perform. Unfortunately, she only does one of those things.

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    Well no duh they need celebrities to judge the show or else nobody will bother watching, but they need people that actually know what they're talking about..... BB. Britney can only give advice on the entertainment/performance side of it because she can't sing a freakin' note anymore.

    At least on The Voice you have people like Adam Levine and Christina who actually sing LIVE (though I can't stand the way Xtina sings but she's still miles better than Britney).

    Remember when AI hired Ellen DeGeneres as a judge, even though she knew nothing about music? She was only there for comic relief and to represent the "general public's opinion." She lasted for 1 season. You need a balance somewhere- someone who actually knows what they're talking about, but also makes the show interesting to watch. I'm sure Britney knows some things given she's been in the industry for so long, but at the same time you've got people behind her doing all this stuff for her. She looks like a robot when she performs on stage. I don't believe she comes up with any choreography for her tours on her own, on the last album didn't write any of the songs (except Scary which didn't make the cut), barely sings and when she does it sounds terrible, barely dances anymore, etc. She relies on background dancers who dance better than she does, weird costumes, props, and sexy dancing to distract from how poor her performing ability has become. Who wants advice from someone like that? If she gave me advice about singing or something, I'd just smile and nod but probably wouldn't take her criticisms very seriously.

    On the other hand, if I were given advice by Adam or Steven Tyler, their criticisms would be more legit because they are actual musicians- they are actually involved in what they do to a much greeter extent than Britney. If I want to be a manufactured robotic pop tart like Briney, sure I'll listen to her. But if I want to be a real musician, I'm not gonna take her seriously. Get the difference?
    Like I said already, there are people behind the scenes to give the singers real advice when it comes to vocals and the details of their performance. That isn't and can't be the judges' job due to time constraints.

    I'm sure there'll be a bunch of snobs who believe that they don't need to pay any heed to what Britney says, but the people smart enough to understand what it takes to be in the business will appreciate someone with her experience having her eye on them. She is the highest paid musician in the WORLD. You'd be an idiot to think you're too good to listen to her, and idiots won't make it far.

    And no, again, you don't need a stellar voice to be a judge. You need experience, you need to know what's going to cut it and what isn't. Avril would have been great for the X Factor because her stint on American Idol proved that she believes in that as well. Britney should be talking about the performance side of things because that's her speciality. Demi can handle the vocals, Simon can (and does) handle public perception.

    As for the music she makes, a ballad with a few acoustic guitars thrown in does not necessarily equate to a good song. Femme Fatale is her second highest rated album in her career after ten years in the business. She made a very forward, strong album. Its genre does not limit how good it is, unless the listener is too simplistic to see past that.
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    Femme Fatale is rated highly because it sounds like every other pop artist out there right now. But in my opinion, it's one of her worst albums to date. All the songs sound alike and there is far too much auto tune that it's actually unbearable to listen to. She did not write any of the songs on it, which just shows how lazy she was with it. That's what it is- a very lazy, sloppily made album. There are no thought-provoking or deep meanings to any of the songs, not even just 1. The producers auto tuned every bit of her vocals so she didn't have to give a decent vocal performance. The overall quality of the album is just poor. It's a good album if you like electropop dance songs, but I personally don't like this album as much as her past ones.

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    And this explain how stupid are the critics: the gave high rants on FF and low rants in her first one or even Britney -_-

    Of course a ballad doesn't mean ''good song'', but the upbeat Britney stuff was so much better and consistent than now, Toxic >>>>>>>>> all FF. Even Womanizer is better, at least there's not much auto-tuned. The only song that is ''Britney standard'' is He About To Lose Me, the rest is good to listen when you're partying, but this is not the stuff that Britney used to do.
    All the fans say how innovative is that album, but IMO In The Zone (and Blackout) are more innovative.





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    Britney is much better than FF, that album have few fillers, have diverse catchy pop song, That album is pop perfection.

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    Anybody who says Britney Spears is not in a position to judge is delusional.

    Britney is an icon, one of the most famous people in the world, and the highest payed female artist in the world. She's a superstar and has already had a long and mostly positive career. She's an expert of the business, of course she's in a position to say whether or not someone's cut out for it. Yes, I agree that she doesn't sing live and that could be seen as hipocritical. However, she can sing, and I'd like to point out that shows like X Factor don't just base it on singing, they want somebody with star quality. They've already got Simon and LA to judge on the singing, they have Britney there to judge other things. That's why it's great to have a diverse judging panel, because if they're all experts in vocals, that's all they're going to care about. They need to take many other things into account. Being able to sing is one thing, but being a star is completely different. Getting Britney is the best thing they'll ever do, I only really watch X Factor UK, but I will tune in especially to X Factor USA just because Britney's on it. Kudo's to her, she's super successful and has a devoted fan base, she deserves every bit of success she has.

    On the topic of Britney, her old stuff is timeless. I'd say my favorite newer album is Circus, but Blackout was pretty awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jululps To view the link you have to Register
    AI has been running for well over a decade and has produced only two notable stars.
    Um...just Kelly.

    Carrie fell off the radar as well. No one outside the sphere of USA-made country music knows of any Carrie songs since 2008 or so. Carrie has as much pop-culture relevance as Miranda Lambert. That's almost bottom of the barrel if you compare that to the relevance of Taylor Swift.

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    In contrast, the X Factor:

    Shayne Ward
    Leona Lewis
    Olly Murs
    Cher Lloyd
    One Direction
    Joe McElderry
    Alexandra Burke
    JLS
    I only know those two. And I only know Leona Lewis because of that one and only hit (Bleeding Love).

    And One Direction are a joke here in America. And people think One Direction will disappear faster than the Jonas Brothers did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBK-79 To view the link you have to Register
    Um...just Kelly.

    Carrie fell off the radar as well. No one outside the sphere of USA-made country music knows of any Carrie songs since 2008 or so. Carrie has as much pop-culture relevance as Miranda Lambert. That's almost bottom of the barrel if you compare that to the relevance of Taylor Swift.



    I only know those two. And I only know Leona Lewis because of that one and only hit (Bleeding Love).

    And One Direction are a joke here in America. And people think One Direction will disappear faster than the Jonas Brothers did.
    I'm sure the good people of America thought LMFAO would disappear as well, but they're still around and shufflin'. D: Either way, that's irrelevant to my point. The band has still made it big, worldwide. And the other stars, as I mentioned, are well-known in the UK/Europe, which is more than most Idol winners achieved in their own country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jululps To view the link you have to Register
    Britney has never had a stellar voice but that clearly doesn't get in the way of becoming a great performer. Her shows still sell-out, her tours are huge. She's doing a LOT considering she has a bum knee.
    I've heard different stories elsewhere.

    Britney's last tour was critically panned. Critics shit on her for crap ranging from her horrible lip-syncing to her horrible dancing. And from what I've heard from German Bandaiders, Britney did one show in Germany and it didn't sell out. And, like Avril's BST, Britney's last tour skipped a handful of countries (like Spain).

    Plus, it bares mentioning that on her Circus Tour, Aussie concert-goers walked out on Britney mid-concert when they had realized that she was blatantly lip-syncing.

    I don't know how much longer Britney can keep up this act.

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    Femme Fatale is rated highly because it sounds like every other pop artist out there right now. But in my opinion, it's one of her worst albums to date. All the songs sound alike and there is far too much auto tune that it's actually unbearable to listen to. She did not write any of the songs on it, which just shows how lazy she was with it. That's what it is- a very lazy, sloppily made album.
    Critics will praise ANYTHING that factory songwriters come up with. That's why citics loved WTH so much, and shit on the rest of GL.

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    On the topic of Britney, her old stuff is timeless. I'd say my favorite newer album is Circus, but Blackout was pretty awesome.
    I hear Blackout was a fan favorite among Britney fans. So I wonder why it tanked when it was released.

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    That's what I'm saying- Britney is obviously capable of writing deep, meaningful songs that don't require auto tune, yet for whatever reason she holds herself back and chooses not to release those types of songs. For whatever reason, the public is only interested in her electropop sexy robot music.
    Because these days sexy robotic music is what sells to an otherwise brain-dead general public.

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    You're only sticking up for Britney because you're a big fan, and I'm a fan too, but you can't deny that she had little talent in the first place, and now she is essentially a corporate robot. I heard she wanted to do something different from what Femme Fatale ended up being, but since she has no backbone she did what RCA wanted and we ended up with 12 songs of auto tuned electropop roboticness. The only reason why anyone still cares about Britney is because of what she's done in the past. If Femme Fatale was her first album, she'd be considered a joke.
    The harsh reality is that every artist will eventually meet that fate. Sooner or later down the road, a long-running artist will be well past his or her peak, and won't be able to return to it. He or she will no longer be able to sell as many albums or have as many hit singles as he or she used to. This will leave the door open to a more fresh-faced artist who will rule the charts and garner more attention.

    For example, Britney's star power "ceded" to Gaga, and Avril's star power "ceded" to Taylor.

    At that point, the veteran artist will be coasting by on his or her history and legacy. He or she will then have to rely on world tours (instead of smash albums and singles) in order to make money. As a result, he or she needs to count on his or her loyal fanbase and proper marketing, in order to keep his or her household name. That's what Madonna and U2 are currently doing.

    Even if Avril makes a big comeback with Album #5, she won't become as big as she was in 2002. Like how Britney will always be best-known for for Oops! I Did It Again and Toxic, Avril will always be best-known for her back catalog consisting of Complicated and I'm With You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBK-79 To view the link you have to Register
    I've heard different stories elsewhere.

    Britney's last tour was critically panned. Critics shit on her for crap ranging from her horrible lip-syncing to her horrible dancing. And from what I've heard from German Bandaiders, Britney did one show in Germany and it didn't sell out. And, like Avril's BST, Britney's last tour skipped a handful of countries (like Spain).

    Plus, it bares mentioning that on her Circus Tour, Aussie concert-goers walked out on Britney mid-concert when they had realized that she was blatantly lip-syncing.

    I don't know how much longer Britney can keep up this act.
    Except this tour was a step-up from her Circus Tour. She sang live to a backing track. It grossed nearly $70M worldwide. Now, I'm not blind to how poor her performances are in comparison to her 2003 days, but the tour was received very well. A quote from Rolling Stone:

    "[The Femme Fatale Tour is] possibly her flashiest, fastest moving, and most entertaining production yet [...] she managed to prove that she's still progressing as a showgirl. Not only that, she's doing it better than even diehard defenders would’ve predicted. At 29, the pop star whose career seemed in danger of ending just a couple years ago has shown that she's back – hopefully this time to stay."

    MTV:

    "[...]the Spears that captivated the audience at the Staples Center [...] was the old, fun-loving, free-wheeling Spears — with a sexy, showgirl twist. There wasn't much pretense, though those glamazon outfits blinded in the best way possible. Instead, there was just good dance music."

    Britney, after being in the industry for so long, is still captivating audiences. And I've got to give her that credit. She may not be bigger than her debut, but she's maintaining her popularity far better than any of the other popstars out there. Womanizer and Till the World Ends are two of her biggest hits, and her most recent releases as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by how does it feel To view the link you have to Register
    Anybody who says Britney Spears is not in a position to judge is delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BogoGog24 To view the link you have to Register
    I hope one day she will release an album of Dear Diarys, Shadows, Everytimes, My Babys, Let Gos, Just Yesterdays, Every Days, Somedays, etc. I think she is really capable of it and it would show people a different side of her.
    She actually almost released an album in 2005 called Orignal Doll that all the songs were like the ones you listed above. The lead single was going to be Mona Lisa and it was rumored Someday (I Will Understand) would be the second single (After Britney confirmed that she was (very close to being) done with the album, a tracklist leaked that is most likely true because alot of the songs on that list leaked. So people assumed that Someday was the second single for some reason) but the whole album got scrapped because Jive wasn't really happy with an album like this thinking it would do poorly and she got pregnant
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