Katy Rose

[Mass]

Wow... the only thing I know about Katy is that she has problems. She had anorexia, and troughout touring Because I Can she still suffered from it. She isn't stable, she's still depressed I think. She's happier now with her hubby but you can still feel that something is up.

And yeah she's pissed about the world but she's trying.

Errr... but really now she was NOT signed to Virgin Records. She was signed to V2 Records.

[Mass]

btw, she's still very close with River, I don't know where you heard that. She's actually "signed" or was to his indie label. She released Candy Eyed with him.

Also she has her own label called Rose Colored Records, but I don't think it's something concrete.

[Dain Bramage]

V2 stands for Virgin 2 - I thought it was one or the other but V2 has a good rep for looking after artists and supporting them Virgin has a shitty reputation so I thought she must have been on that one .
I didn't know they had folded .

your right She isn't stable but I think she's a bit of a drama queen her problems seem to be self inflicted for the most part , i think she is somebody who thinks in the romantic suffering artist idea and because she grew up privileged she makes herself suffer .
she said she was a drug addict when she was about 12 /13 then later I read somewhere that she said she was sexually abused but her family denied it .
she fell out with her sister a few years ago , I'm not sure if the even talk again now .
she just seems to romanticise everything including problems , half the posts she writes and interviews she does seem to say how difficult her life is and how unfair everything is , changing her attitude would change everything but then she wouldn't be a suffering artist and life wouldn't be romantic .
I new someone in school who was exactly like that , self harm and cutting her wrists will be on her todo list at some point .

And she seem defiantly a difficult person to work with her career , it can't all be someone else to blame .
River Jones was her drummer and friend , he is talented , makes interesting music , I have a EP of his which I like .

MODERN GIRLFRIENDS: modern girlfriends

They wrote together But and I think he was putting her music out but surprise surprise she fell out with him as well.
looks like everybody she works with from the start till now , she must have something to do with it .

when you read what you posted you can tell she wants success and recognition and independents but she isn't ever going to do the promotional work to get it . I can tell you that no big label is going to give her a deal , they drop people who sell less than 750 000 even if the work for 12 months doing everything they are asked to do by the label.
Interscope no chance , she's dreaming , Samantha Moore is still waiting for them to put one of her albums out after 4 years .

Chantal Kreviazuk is another one who wants everything with her career an expects it to just fall out of the sky , that probably why she sucks off Perez and was pissed off with Avril.

check out some of Rivers music , I will try and find the EP I had. Im sure she had a fight with him and arent even talking now , but I might be wrong .

[Dain Bramage]

And she seem defiantly a difficult person to work with her career , it can't all be someone else to blame .
River Jones was her drummer and friend , he is talented , makes interesting music , I have a EP of his which I like .

They wrote together But and I think he was putting her music out but surprise surprise she fell out with him as well.
looks like everybody she works with from the start till now , she must have something to do with it .

Sorry ignore all that bit then , For some reason I didn't see your last post

[Dain Bramage]

check out some of Rivers music , I will try and find the EP I had. Im sure she had a fight with him and arent even talking now , but I might be wrong .

And that bit

[Mass]

So there you have it she NEVER had a falling out with River. He's been her backbone and he really believes in her.

You really don't like Katy do you, very appearent.
Let me tell you one thing... atleast READ her blog before being all knowing, example, she has contact with her sister. Just READ before assuming.

She's a tortured artist like a lot out there. I don't care if it's self-inflicted or whatever. You're taking it all too seriously and she's still young. And she's definitely not an attention whore I know MUCH worse people. Her music helped me a lot btw. She's an amazing writer, Avril could learn a thing or few from her.


And I'm deleting the post with the quote from her since it was personal and I don't wanna exploit it like that. You've read it and that's all you need to know.

[Mass]

Samantha Moore the project of Clif Fabri that's the one you're talking about right?

[Mass]

I do have a thing to say about Katy, a couple months ago I messaged her asking her how the label "choices" were going, and that it's long overdue for her return. It was meant as a positive thing. I thought after those other myspace exchanges she would get it. But she answered back all defensive and saying things like "just kick back and WAIT" and "I don't need fans on myspace telling me which way my career should go. I spend every day stressed out and fighting to survive out there, so (I mean this in the nicest way) I DO NOT need my fans sending me anxiety e-mails."

I was like uhm WTF OKAY. I was pissed off but I'm over it now. Maybe she was having a bad day but that's still no excuse to respond like that.

Not my problem how she implies certain things, if she doesn't see it... well...

[Prudence]

I had no idea she was even still around. I didnt really like her that much when she first came out, didnt really like her attitude but I liked a few of her songs.

[Dain Bramage]

The reason why I think she has had a falling out with River is because I was on a message board where people were talking about Katy , one person said they met River the week before and being a Katy fan asked him about her , he told her he hasn't seen or talked with her for months and isn't working with her , that was beginning of this year i think.
now it could be just his way of getting out of a long conversation with someone he didn't want to talk to or they have in fact fallen out , i know they were close and he was her song writing other half bit like Avril and Evan close , plus if he is handling her album then its a bit odd they haven't even spoken .

the stuff about her and her sister falling out was posted by Katy herself , I will look for the place I read it , it was on the same site that she posted her holiday photos and wedding listand talked about her wedding .

oh and the stuff I said about "sexually abused" I should clarify , I didn,t mean anything to do with her family or anything like that , i think we would call it an inappropriate relationship with some one older , Americans say different things .
which I have assumed is why she said she had problems with drugs , self harm , depressed ,etc

yeah that Samantha Moore Interscope/Geffen same label .
nothing is happening with all these labels they are spending all their time merging with each other and restructuring not breaking new artists.
Blacklist club on Warner , same thing going on there , i will be surprised if Evan has a album out this year.
That message she sent you about her next label , i think she is probably finding it more difficult to get a deal than she thought.

It's not so much that I don't like her , i follow her slightly because I am waiting to see if she can do anything good , I don't rule her out , I have followed all the female Artists that came out just after Avril because i read so much about them at the time , her attitude sucked then and is the main reason for her not being successful . she had the opinion in every interview I read of how mature and tortured she was , and how immature everybody her age was , I'm still waiting for her to grow up .
I admit I do tend to hold a tiny grudge against anyone who slags of Avril when they promote themselves , and she did plenty of that .

the only young singers I like that came out from that time were Fefe and Sky , they had better altitudes.


I will go and have a look for the bit about her sister.

[Dain Bramage]

Thats the guy she married Yariv Sponko on the 23/08

[Mass]

Yeah yeah I get you. But about the Avril comparisons, they were all tired of it! Her, Fefe and Skye. I can totally understand that, and Katy is a grumpy person so it's only understandable that she was fed up.

Her attitude never really bugged me, she didn't feel good in her skin at the time she was 17/18 she was moody, she perceived things a different way. Don't you get that??? She was still a teen, and a teen who's depressed WATCH OUT. Not like Avril who was in a "dark" place on UMS

Katy is an emotional person.


And again about River they never had a falling out, I've been watching her every now and then ever since she decided to make a myspace page. And that was last year.
Cause she literally disapeared, and I remember her sporadicly posting on her official forums years ago and she once mentioned she didn't really like computers cause they give her headaches. So everyone was surprised when she came back with a myspace and updating us frequently.

River helped her get it up and running and they never had a fight or whatever, you can't believe everything you read. When I read some of her comments often River would show up in it so they're still close. An even IF they had a fight I'm sure it didn't last longer than 3 months and I don't consider that a falling out.

And now I'm done talking about that. You dislike Katy and fight tooth and nail.

We'll see what happens with her career and whatnot but c'mon give her a break.